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Welcome to hardtalk. Im stephen sackur. We humans have a complicated relationship with animals. Some we pet, some we skin, some we eat. We destroy their wild habitats while we agonise about the loss of species diversity. It is not an equal relationship, its exploitative, but will it ever change . And if so, how . My guest is determined that it should. Ingrid newkirk is president and Co Founder of the Campaign Group people for the ethical treatment of animals. Is she the Human Ally Animals need . Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. To have you in the studio. Let me start by trying let me start by trying to establish a core principle. To establish a core principle. ....
On this programme before, but this is the first time that youre talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the uns humanitarian Chief Injune this year. Response that we will be facing a situation where people will drift fast it always is fast, its viral with famine into a situation where we cant see whats going on. The good thing about ethiopia, as you remember, was we could see what was happening and it attacked our consciences. Its not happening in sudan. Butjust to be clear, what ethiopia resulted in, it was A Million deaths from famine. So, you are saying that sudan could cause more than A Million deaths from famine . Yes. Yes, of course. And i know its very difficult to comprehend that because we dont really understand famine and we understand it probably less now in many ways than we did then when it was a very imp ....
Think springfield will ever be the same . I dont think the fact is and ill say it now, you have to get them the hell out. You have to get them out. Im sorry a Bird May scene in kabul, but a girl may not no woman may not in public. This is a suppression of the Natural Law for the people of lebanon, Israels War for is not with you its with hezbollah. Were clearly walking into a much wider war london. This is Cnn Newsroom with Max Foster and christina macfarlane hello, a warm welcome to our viewers joining us from around the world. Im Max Foster. It is tuesday, september the 24th, 9 00 a. M. Here in london, 11 00 a. M. Across the israeli lebanese border, where israel has begun ano ....