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For one if you re doing full disclosure. i don t know him either. okay. i usually do know the russians. i know mr. deripaska, for instance. we can come back to him in a minute. he was well-known working with manafort and he was working in ukraine, but he s a russian national working in ukraine. and the world of intelligence services just generally is murky. and to say that he worked for the grmptu or the svr, i don t w that. but my general experience, would he have relationships with those organizations? my answer would be probably yes. in terms of what we do know putting together the pieces, he did invoke them, telling a journalist. that s something that could even get out, don t show this picture of me. of course, we ve put this against a non-picture there, a profile. if you show that picture, i will kill you, the kgb will kill you, the gru will kill you as well. that alone could be tough talk, ....
Institute. he initially worked as a translator in ukraine for manafort, who speaks neither russian nor ukrainian, and became a progressively more integral member of manafort s team, eventually running the kiev office for mr. manafort s firm. earlier today, former u.s. ambassador to russia michael mcfaul, spoke to ari melber about this kilimnik s possible ties to russian intelligence agencies. he was well known working with manafort, and he was working in ukraine, but he s a russian national working in ukraine. and the world of intelligence services just generally is murky. and to say that he worked for the gru or the svr, i don t know that for sure. right. but from my general experience in the region, would he have relationships with those kinds of organizations? my answer to that would be probably yes. and we should note that of course kilimnik has denied links to russian spy agencies. meanwhile on his way to the g7 ....
well, first, ari, i don t know him. i want to be clear about that. i have never met him. i used to follow manafort, and i would see him, his operations in ukraine ambassador, we could go one-on-one if we are doing full disclosure. i don t know him either. i know mr. deriposka for instance. we could go back to that in a minute. but he was well known working for manafort. he s working in ukraine, but he s a russian national. the world of intelligence services is generally murky. so say he worked for the gru or svr, i don t know that for sure. from my general experience in the region, would he have relationships with those kind of things until region? ....
But the long-term consequences of even having that meeting, and can i use the word conspiring about hillary clinton more. what does that give the russians in the big picture. three or four things, number one we would have called that a russian soft approach. it s good tradecraft. don t go in there with svr and fsb on your business card as your first encounter. you begin to establish contact. what did they learn? number one, they learned the campaign was willing to deal. exactly. which is a really big thing. they were willing to accept information on hillary clinton, with the providence of the russian government on it. number three, they learned this is a little indirect, but they seem to have had a pretty sophisticated operation, they learned that the campaign would not go to the feds. with the russian approach coming at them. because they didn t see any ....
Going on at the time. looking straight into the white house and into the candidates involved. but again, i have to get back and emphasize the point that everybody in that room, every single russian in that room, when they return to moscow, was probably debriefed by the fsb or svr, one of the two russian intelligence services. whether one calls themselves an informant or has whatever ties they have, they are all going to go home and pay the piper, they re going to talk to the services, or to vladimir putin, whoever he says, and they re going to get fully debriefed on what s going on. what would be interesting is whether natalia veselnitskaya had any additional tasking. whether she was told, hey, if you do get this response from donald trump jr. or anybody else in the room, we d like you to do this, that. that we don t know yet, which is something that i would entrust folks like the mueller team to try to get to the bottom of. is she the type of person who would be used to deliver dirt ....