were planning for a much bigger attack and they had the firepower to do so. we learned in the weeks before this attack, there was a confrontation between syed farook and one of his coworkers. the coworker was deeply devout christian and there was an argument between them that got very heated, said the coworkers wife, about islam and whether islam was a peaceful religion. that coworker was among the 14 who were shot and killed. i just want to, for viewers who missed that amazing press conference ats the top of of the hour, megyn, starting right before the kelly file went on the air and for those who didn t say lieutenant mike madden, who grew up here in san bernardino, he isn t even a beat cop any more. he was an administrative cop. and he summed it up saying, look, these people were celebrating christmas and the next thing they knew, they were dealing with death.
things that relatives and neighbors are saying about this suspect, farook, seem to paint a contradictory picture. his father said he was quote, very religious. a neighbor said about two years ago he became more devout, growing a beard and wearing religious clothing. another says he was living the american dream. another says that s the problem. that s the signs of someone going down the path of islamic radical may not be as obvious as you think. a former islamic extremist and author of radical, my journey out of islamic extremism. pz. we would like to think we would know if we work in the next county dpournty and work next to somebody who is becoming radicalized. but by might not know. actually, most times, megyn, we don t know. that s the sad state of affairs. what we just heard from policeman mike madden, was nothing short of heart breaking.
i m not sure if we have the soundbite. but i want you to hear what he said at the top of the conference. i tell you, it something that, although we trained for it, it is something you re never actually prepared for. it was unspeakable. the carnage that we were seeing. the number of people who were injured and unfortunately already dead, and the pure panic on the face of those individuals that were still in need and needing to be safe. and in every tragedy there is irony. there were 14 people killed, megyn. 6 of them were women. 8 were men. one of the men was the father of six. one of the women had escaped as a child islamic extremism in iran. and finally, we should note that police are very interested in this trip that syed farook took to saudi arabia in the early spring. megyn? we are learning a lot more about him today as well. trace, thank you. the trip to saudi arabia.
malfunctioned. they fired another 76 round at the cops during a fierce gun battle. they had more than 1600 rounds of unused ammunition in their rented suv when police killed them. meantime, at family home, police found 12 pipe bombs, tools for making more, and an additional 3,000 rounds of ammunition. all of this combined with their use of tactical gear makes it clear this couple was ready to kill and the carnage could have been much worse. in moments tonight, we will be joined by dr. is a bastion gorka, who provides counterterrorism train together fbi and by former islamic extremist nuaz. we begin with trace gallagher reporting from san bernardino, california. trace? reporter: megyn, now police confirmed the associated press that syed farook was watching isis propaganda on-line and was in fact in contact with the people the fbi had under investigation for terrorism. the next step is for them to
things that relatives and neighbors are saying about this suspect, farook, seem to paint a contradictory picture. his father said he was quote, very religious. a neighbor said about two years ago he became more devout, growing a beard and wearing religious clothing. another says he was living the american dream. another says that s the problem. that s the signs of someone going down the path of islamic radical may not be as obvious as you think. a former islamic extremist and author of radical, my journey out of islamic extremism. pz. we would like to think we would know if we work in the next county dpournty and work next to somebody who is becoming radicalized. but by might not know. actually, most times, megyn, we don t know. that s the sad state of affairs. what we just heard from policeman mike madden, was nothing short of heart breaking.