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microphones for your questions as to get in the last portion of the program but while you are lining up i want to ask elizabeth to tell me about what did you interview the number of people who were close to speak to his first administration and the first half and second-half, what did they tell you about him either on the record or off the record, what impression did i have of him and what did you learn in talking to those people? there were several, he had a loyal staff which again was sort of puzzling because he never paid any attention to them. [laughter] the man never had a staff meeting, he never held a cabinet meeting ever. so the way he ran illinois government was completely puzzling. it wound up he really was running particularly at the end of running it from a speaker phone in his living room. not only did he not go to springfield which the operative much know, he didn t go to the office in chicago either. the troubled his staff to put it lightly and they sai ....

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