but now, he s been subjectivised by the international leaders. he has been invited to nato, to the 0ec bilateral talks and summits, as it was back in the 80s, with the us. that brings additional pluses to his narrative and to his support inside moscow, inside russia, so if he goes with a military invasion, it would leave him no room for additional points to be gained by internal narrative, so this is something which could restrain him. but we should also take into account that it is not only about global talks and implications on ukraine. it s something which perfectly well serves his internal interests as a president who wants to be elected until the very last day of his life. all right. thanks. please, carl bildt. to add very, very briefly, there are issues, where they should be possible to talk with him and make agreements. i mean, there are arms control issues in europe, that we, from the west, if i might say that, have an interest
and he needs to be supported. and, basically, war rhetorics is not very much supported by russian population so far. but, like it was back in 2014 when he annexed crimea, just ahead of the elections, his rating was going higher, really. now, it s not the case, but now, he s been subjectivised by the international leaders. he has been invited to nato, to the oec bilateral talks and summits, as it was back in the 80s, with the us. that brings additional pluses to his narrative and to his support inside moscow, inside russia, so if he goes with a military invasion, it would leave him no room for additional points to be gained by internal narrative, so this is something which could restrain him. but we should also take into account that it is not only about global talks and implications on ukraine. it s something which perfectly well serves his internal interests as a president
he wants influence. i don t think that he s trying to rebuild the soviet union. i don t think he s trying to do that, but i think he is trying to extend his interests, extend his influence into areas that are immediately bordering russia. sure. if i canjump in, while i fully agree with everything which was said, but let me add a bit of pragmatism and sergey has partially mentioned it when we re talking about putin, we re not only talking about putin talking to foreign leaders, he s also a president of a country and he talks to his population and he needs to be supported. and, basically, war rhetorics is not very much supported by russian population so far. but, like it was back in 2014 when he annexed crimea, just ahead of the elections, his rating was going higher, really. now, it s not the case. but now, he s been subjectivised by the international leaders.