As a kind of subaltern now. all of the mechanisms and rituals like debates, they don t work anymore if you are no longer part of the bipartisan democracy. what we are seeing with this, not wanting to be in the debates, it is part of this cracking up or fragmentation or disintegration of things that were built for democracy, not for and torturing cult leader. all, right ruth as always, thank you so much, appreciate it. right after the break, folks, protests have erupted after a we will have the very latest. we will have the very latest we will have the very latest