about the necessity of everybody of going along with vaccinations and wearing masks. i want to talk to you about another issue you ve been very vocal about. it s police reform. you wrote a piece recently that people can check out. i need to get one of these sub stacks, by the way. it s great that you have one. it s about the trials and triplations of growing up in the 60s and 70s with a black cop for a father. there s a story you tell about what happened after the white owner of a grocery store accused your mother of shoplifting. can you tell us about that? well, it was just something, my mom didn t feel like dealing with. my mom was born in north carolina and she had to deal with jim crow and living in new york, didn t feel that was something she had to cope with.
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