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Iran s centrifuges might work here now. so they know about that now, so there s defense, but there s an advantage. we have sanctions in north korea and in iran. they cannot upgrade to windows you know, they can t get security updates from windows. this plays a huge part in our operational plan, right so when it comes down to it you can t have the same security features as maybe we do in the u.s. or in countries that are not on the itar defense agreements. what that does, it could give the government access to find a vulnerability they can t deagainst defense against. power lines are a vulnerability? they are. the software that desgrats between the industrial and the control systems and the actual software themselves. they have been known even both here and abroad to be very insecure due to the way they integrate. again, we don t know whether they use a stuxnet like worm here or not. but that certainly has been discussed based on how quickly ....
Preemptive strike on mobile missile launchers. a new york times reported over the weekend that president obama ordered a cyberattack on the north s program. given the successful launches we ve seen, is that tactic no longer effective? this is something i assumed they were going to do. given what they did with stuxnet and iran, that was something i assumed they would be doing. it s a band-aid. there is the larger issue that eventually they will figure it out. as you have said, their capabilities continue to improve. and we are in for a bumpy ride. phillip, thanks so much. appreciate it. thank you. quick break. the trump organization is forging new business ties around the world. when we come back, why some new trademarks by donald trump in china are getting a little extra attention. hey ron! they re finally taking down that schwab billboard. oh, not so fast, carl. ....
Mind what happens next? it s scary, it s scary. because if you look at the capacity that cyber warfare has, and if you know about stuxnet, which some people do and don t know about that, they were able to weaponize, you know, a cyber warfare and actually go in and blow up centrifuges in iran. that s what scares me. we don t have anymore at the helm of our country right now. he is you know, i hate to say it, we don t want to use the word mentally ill, but he is mentally unstable, this man, and so who is going to take charge here when the next attack. if the first attack, which was going into our elections, which we know happened, if it had been that a bomb blew up in new york, everybody would be going crazy. that s what happened. he blew up something. and now he could blow more stuff ....
Clearly leading and commutations, exponentially. the dash there is a list of commutations and pardons. the other pardon, james cartwright, accused of a national security breach in revelations about the iranian computer virus, stuxnet. he s been pardoned. let s bring in our panel. steve hayes, a.b. stoddard, and laura ingraham. steve, first. chelsea manning and what this says, what it is. it s a disgrace and it s not a surprise from this president. the damage that these leaks did is not theoretical. it s real. it s clear, and it s demonstrable. the case the u.s. government made against chelsea manning, as one of my colleagues wrote about at the time, found this aided ....
Clearly leading and commutations, exponentially. the dash there is a list of commutations and pardons. the other pardon, james cartwright, accused of a national security breach in revelations about the iranian computer virus, stuxnet. he s been pardoned. let s bring in our panel. steve hayes, a.b. stoddard, and laura ingraham. steve, first. chelsea manning and what this says, what it is. it s a disgrace and it s not a surprise from this president. the damage that these leaks did is not theoretical. it s real. it s clear, and it s demonstrable. the case the u.s. government made against chelsea manning, as one of my colleagues wrote about at the time, found this aided ....