steve, concluding from breitbart people, they can t get him on the phone because at this white house it seems like all the action and energy is around the president. they re always around the president. i think the president likes having them around. that s another aspect of this white house. but no, i think do you think he s running breitbart, bannon? absolutely not. he called matt boil about a story boyle publish $7ed. i called you before. tlgs communication. there is communication, but he s not running the organization. that s a stretch. anyway, i m sure we ll have a lot of time to talk. we have another three years minus 98 days or so. anyway there s just nothing happening. nothing happening. thank you both, gentlemen. and the president of china who i just mentioned just arrived at mar-a-lago for a state dinner with president trump. and it is down to business. how will talks about north korea go? when you have allergies,
matt, first to you. always outside it looks different from what might be happening inside. do you know what is going on inside the white house? all you have to do is read a bunch of articles to know what is going on inside this white house. there is leaking like i ve never seen before. some of these stories have 18 and 20 sources for the stories. so, look it could be 18 or 20 anonymous sources. i m always a little suspicious. do you have any information? i will tell you this, i worked in the white house for a full term and there is allegation infighting, everyone is always trying to get the favor of the president. the only difference with this white house is we seem to read about it a lot. and let s face it donald trump wasn t a politician. he didn t have an established etiology and he hired a bunch of people who are democrats. and, so, it s an interesting world in there. curt, you know steve bannon because you worked over at breitbart. i know you had a little falling out wit
president trump sort of backs off a little bit on his commitments on nafta, or he backs off on some of his commitments even about china? because he s meeting with the president of china. what happens then? i think you re already seeing the groundwork. when you look at what breitbart has been reporting the last day or two, they ve done four or five stories attacking jared kushner. steve is already setting up where the blame is going to fall. are you suggesting those are coming from steve bannon? absolutely. there is no line of separation there is no line of separation between breitbart and the steve bannon white house. when you look at julia hawaiihnw at the white house. this is the nature of d.c. we have this revolving door. i ve worked at three networks. some say i couldn t hold a job. but i mean people are coming and going this is a conspiracy theory. a lot of people at breitbart assume when steve leaves the white house at some point he s going to go right back there an
world and the ryan republican faction. these days the front page of bannon s old stomping ground, breitbart, suggests that trump s white house is in a full-on civil war with the battle for trump s right-hand man reaching game of thrones level proportions. the alt-right blog has led the charge in blaming paul ryan for the health bill s failure. it s also starting chatter as replacing ryan as speaker of the house pinning the stunning health care loss on ryan. after trump set a tweet about janine s fox show another right wing outlet got involved. now, i certainly have not spoken with the president about any of this, but i can only imagine that he and his aides took on health care because they believed you had his back and you didn t. paul ryan needs to step down as speaker of the house.
as these internal republican factions solidify and we learn just how much control trump has over them, perhaps the lesson learned is when your party plays the game of thrones, you win, or your bill and your clout die. joining me now, scott ross, executive director of one wisconsin now, former breitbart media consultant kurt bodela, e.j. dion ne, author with joy reid of we are the change we seek and charlie sykes. gentlemen, thank you all very much for being here. kurt, i ve got to start with you. you used to work at breitbart, you know steve bannon. i want to throw up this steve bannon quote. it s element one and then we ll go to element two. this is a quote about the health care fallout. the hill article was reporting on the report, bannon apparently had a conversation with the freedom caucus in the eisenhower executive office building when some members visited the white house.