subpoenas, and then maybe facing possible jail time. and they could see how this unravels in terms of american democracy. but they also really believe on the democratic said and perhaps some of the republicans who voted with the democrats today that if the answers are never found out to the fullest extent on january 6th and the days before, steve bannon connects trump to the eve, to december 30th, to talks beforehand. not just the day of. because so much of the impeachment proceedings in the trial were about president trump s speech and stoking an insurrection. but the fuller story is of course the days prior as well. if answers aren t found out now, when will they be? and next time, maybe there will be alternate slates in the states. when you look at what republicans are doing in the states right now, bannon is encouraging people run for
frankly convicted in a bipartisan vote although obviously not enough to convict him. but this idea of political peril of voting with steve bannon. say more. at this point, a question ahead of 2022 and 2024 is who is in control of the republican party? it is easy to say oh, trump s in control. but it s more of the trump movement. not even trump himself seems to be directing that much from mar-a-lago or his new jersey golf course. it s now his allies who are in the conservative media, at conservative pressure groups. they are exerting power. bannon with his daily, quote, war room podcast. these are people weaponizing republican power. ahead of 2022 and 2024 all of these lawmakers who are voting today are being tested and questioned in sense, who are you taking cues from? is it the trump ring of the republican party that s trying to become empowered?
i know how informed you are. i really want to understand what you are saying. you don t have inside knowledge that d.o.j. will take the path you just describe. but if they do what the attorney general testified to today was that he would apply the facts and follow the law. and it s your analysis that if you apply the facts and follow the law, he will be criminally prosecuted? exactly. i think it is just too hard to do anything else. in the last administration when you had some joker attorney, maybe. even then it would have been hard. here i find it virtually impossible that given what bannon is doing, his intransjens in simply refusing to tell the truth under oath coupled with the seriousness of what this evidence is and the seriousness of the investigation, it s just incredibly hard to do anything else. just putting myself in that chair it doesn t matter whether
future. take a listen to congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida on what was at stake today and how whether there s a d or an r next to your name should not matter. our committee seeks only the truth. that is our legal charge and our moral obligation. we cannot let any individual impede our inquiry, and we will not tolerate mr. bannon s evasion. this was no peaceful protest in a proud american tradition. it was violent and vicious. members of the mob wielded weapons. they called for the death of the vice president. they hunted members of congress. they caused severe harm to law enforcement officers. america s not just a place. it s an idea. and on january 6th there was an attack on the very idea of america. and i believe that patriots of all political stripes should want to protect our capitol, this country, and her constitution. that is where we start this hour. joining us now is congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida. she s a member of the house
justice department. that should happen, i think, very soon. then it will be up to the justice department how quickly they bring it before the grand jury or even if they bring it before the grand jury. it s certainly our expectation that they will. but that hasn t always been the case. here, though, i think there are lots of signs why the justice department is likely to take this very seriously. they made it very clear to mr. bannon they were not asserting executive privilege and didn t think that he had one to apply here. what s more, even if bannon had some colorful claim, you can t just not show up. so, this is about as strong a case for contempt as you can imagine, and i also think that the justice department recognizes the need to re-establish the rule of law and that no one is above the law. so, i m optimistic and the quicker the better. and if they don t, then what? well, you know, look, i think it will still have a deterrent impact on others. but the deterrent impact will be