general had recused himself. and we did not get to the bottom of that. we did not find out why he recused himself. and we will have to pursue that issue further. and we will very aggressively because protecting the first amendment with regard to both of these matters is very, very important and a great responsibility for the congress. bill: and on that point, now, he says he recused himself, so he can t answer the questions. so how do you get answers if he won t take you there? well, first of all, we re going to have to pursue the deputy attorney general of the united states who stepped in in his place and made these decisions. and we re also going to continue to ask why in so many of these matters we do not see accountability. now, with regard to the irs, you know, quite frankly, i was pleased to see last night that the new secretary of treasury did take it upon himself to secure the resignation of the acting director of the irs. but when it
administration described this. we know there s a lot more to this, and we ve talked about that, the security beforehand and military response during it. martha: yeah. but how the administration has described this part of it is detailed in these e-mails. martha: yeah. it clearly is. and it clearly, you just keep going back to the big picture, because i think there is an effort to sort of flood out some of this information and to get folks to say, well, there it is. you know, they released it, people have been after them for some time. as you clearly point out, there was an effort to make it appear that we didn t know that the security situation on the ground was very volatile and that there was quite a bit to be concerned about and that the calls from ambassador stevens for more security and more help went unanswered. that is a basic fact that continues to be substantiated by these e-mails, right? that s the key, that the state department didn t want congress to be hitting them over
conduct yourself as a member of congress. it s unacceptable, and it s shameful. bill: with me now is bob goodlatte, the virginia republican who chairs that committee. sir, good morning to you. of we just heard a little clip from yesterday. what did you think of the tone of the attorney general? bill, the tone of the attorney general was fine for a lot of it. the frustration of members were, and you ve probably seen some of the youtube clips of him saying i don t know in a whole variety of ways. but then there were a few points where members were getting [inaudible] the attorney general, i think, reacted very strongly and, quite frankly, not constructively because there are legitimate questions regarding thomas perez, his conduct of the civil rights division of the justice department, and in particular the secret deal that he orchestrated with the city of
and last night six people, for now, we know have lost their lives. the numbers still fluid, martha. martha: what a tragedy. casey, thank you. we ll check back in with you later. bill: a reasonably quiet season up until now and wow! tea party leaders in congress are holding a news conference on the irs scandal. that is michele bachmann out of minnesota. we ll let you know what they say. stay tuned for headlines. top republican senator, marco rubio. very strong words for the white house. why he believes they are at the root of all three of these scandals. he is our guest live in a matter of moments, senator rubio. what we have going on now a culture of hard ball politics and intimidation and unacceptable and should be chilling to every member of this body, republican and democrat. this is unacceptable behavior but this is what you get when an administration is all about politics. i automatically go there. at angie s list, you ll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare
the affordable care act. so already owns with americans financial information, it will also be armed with americans health information. we spoke to one tea party member who gave up her own quest to form a 501c4 after the irs threaten today examine her private e-mails, twitter accounts. she s deeply concerned about this expansion of irs power. my concern is four years after the irs has expanded to police the nation s health care law, how many stories of abuse are going to emerge from this and really, what will be the impact? reporter: representative randy forbes, a republican from virginia, and others are introducing a bill to ban the irs from hiring those additional 15,000 employees to help implement the health care law. bill: doug mckelway in washington on that. thanks. 27 past, here s martha. martha: attorney general eric holder going at it with familiar faces in congress. watch some of this from yesterday. i m sure there must have been a good reason why only to and from part