and what the republican chairman of the house oversight committee, mr. chaffetz, is doing is wrong. he wants to have a secret star chamber style tribunal to hear privately from schaub. the democrats are saying, why can t we have a public hearing, which would be the normal way to do these things. we re not in the middle ages here where we haul people in that way. and he s prejudged. he hasn t heard what schaub s reasoning is. and mr. chaffetz is blessing the trump plan. john, it s not just me saying this, but the republican bush ethics czar, mr. painter, a distinguished american scholar, says the same thing. it s outrageous. i should say, elijah cummings, the democrat who sits on the house oversight committee, contacted me over the break to say he is calling for this hearing to be