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Security economic and Technical Assistance were to continue and if i had the backing of the secretary of state to implement that policy and i worried about what id heard concerning the role of Rudy Giuliani who had made several controversial statements about ukraine and u. S. Policy for the country so during my meeting with secretary pompeo on may 28th i made clear to him and the others president present that if the u. S. Policy toward ukraine changed he would not want me posted there and i could not state issued me that the policy of strong support for ukraine would continue and that he would support me in defending that policy with that understanding i agreed to go back to cave because i was appointed by the secretary but not reconfirmed by the senate my official position was sharjah fair odd interim in effect i was the acting ambassador to ukraine. I returned to cave ....