chelsea mitchell, part of the first lawsuit and her attorney join us in a moment. but first, mike tobin is with us live and i read through this, still pretty complicated. well, you know, john, the ncaa board of governors pretty much decided not to decide as they voted to sync up with the olympic rules and that means the rules governing transgender competition will be decided sport by sport. the national governing body of each sport will ultimately make the rules. now they dictate 2022, testosterone levels four weeks before the school year, and then next year, several times during the season. kaitlyn jenner supports transgender people but says they have an advantage. bigger hands and bigger