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this is no typical case. according to district judge beryl howell, she says giuliani is likely to hide his assets from the plaintiffs, ruby freeman and shaye moss, adding, quote, giuliani has never denied that he has taken steps to hide his assets from judgment creditors and has offered no affirmative pledge that he will take no steps to do so. joining us right now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, and former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. welcome to you both. ken, starting with you here. realistically, what does this mean, both the order and giuliani s filing for bankruptcy. what happens first? well, alex, the bankruptcy puts the judgment on pause, while a bankruptcy judge decides how to parcel out what s left of mr. giuliani s money. he s listing between $1,000,010,000,000 in assets and at least $152 million in liabilities, maybe more. bankruptcy won t save him from the $148 million debt. some debt can be wiped away ....