adam schiff of california is a member of the house select committee. he also is the lead impeachment manager in donald trump s first impeachment and he joins me now. congressman, first let s talk about congressman scott perry. obviously this is interesting, and i feel like almost uncharted waters. i m trying to wrack my brain for a similar situation in which you had to sort of special impanelled committee who have witnesses who are themselves a member of congress and how to treat that. what is your response to him saying he simply won t cooperate? well, there s, you know, precedence certainly for calling members of congress before an investigatory. in the russia investigation we asked a democrat and a republican lawmaker to come in and both agreed to voluntarily. it is extraordinary for a congressman to refuse and you have to ask why is he trying to obstruct the work of the