Want to know the real numbers we want to know whos supporting in the pens and who smoke and theres no way the kingdom of spain can agree on such a referendum like the u. K. Did it for scotland or the so we dont think were better than any other nation but were not less than any other nation but the e. U. Know that the problem with referenda and i think the bracks and station shows that the independents moment its called supports that as well is that people may change their mind the circumstances may change. Are you sure that if you have internationally recognised referendum and if the majority of catalan say no to independence is that going to put the issue to rest once and for all. Not for me or people like me but we will have a result and we will accept it obviously. The same thing if there is a yes we expect the spanish authorities and the International Community especially the Spanish Government to do what they didnt do on october the 1st 2017 when such a vote was held and they did
Understand neither the current cut on authorities nor the spain authorities consider it illegal or free and fair for you it wasnt free and fair because of the Police Presence for them it was illegal as far as the results of concerned anything over 90 percent of people who came to the polls they supported the independence cost as far as the results are concerned do you consider them legitimate or it is it more like a legacy or every torkel issue for you it was an enormous wonderful feat bringing millions of people to the polls enabling them to vote despite police disruption and brutality and its something the people of the loony achieved and the government which was in place than helped the people to do to vote freely for the future thats the way we think things should be done perhaps we didnt have the strength to fulfill the mandate of the people and thats why we. Need International Complicity and support to convince the government of spain the this is the sensible reasonable way of do
Anything over 90 percent of people who came to the polls they supported the independence cost as far as the result the country do you consider them illegitimate there or it is it more like a legacy or every torkel issue for you it was an enormous wonderful feat bringing millions of people to the polls enabling them to vote despite police disruption and brutality and its something the people of catalonia achieved and the government which was in place then helped the people to do to vote freely for the future now thats the way we think things should be done perhaps we didnt have the strength to fulfill the mandate of the people and thats why we need International Complicity and support to convince the government of spain the this is the sensible reasonable way of doing things the democratic way because. The use of force is not helping people in catalonia we believe that the majority of people but its not the majority lets test it and lets find out the people in catalonia want to vote and
Translated like that in english so that you understand that im part of a government the Catalan Government is still the independent government belonging to recognise state but still we do have a minister like lenders and germany or other governments also have. Yes we been seeing how the Spanish Government especially the ministry of Foreign Affairs. Brady has been trying to stop us from making any foreign action we think were entitled to that because. In 21st century you go to be competitive and have a place in the world otherwise you wont prosper im sure would agree that the lonnies know its like any other city in spain this dispute has been plaguing this country for 3 centuries and if you look at the recent polls its not evident that the majority of couple one support independence i wonder how do you frame this issue right there is it still about full of flood. Independence or do you stop way out selfdetermination and the right to vote the regardless of which way the boat goes from a
Want to vote on independence such an issue has to be delivered to the people and democracy is the rule of the people for the people and with the people so thats the way we think it should be done now the leaders of the along independence moment oversaw that referendum as you mentioned and now awaiting sentencing by the Spanish Supreme Court and. They are given political situation in spain over all that. Jail terms may provoke and now theyre outburst of violence and now theyre police and ive thought of police cautious on the streets do you share this concern and we will discourage any aggressiveness and thats what weve been doing for more than 7 years now this is a Peaceful Movement its a Civic Movement and its a movement which is fighting for human rights and for a democratic outcome because thats the only way out the use of force and weve only seen that on the side of the powers of the state in spain. Police troops were sent by the Spanish Government the Catalan Government was suspend