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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 16:47:00

leadership of vladimir putin. andrea part of the commentary that is been going back and forth between vladimir putin and prigozhin, they haven t necessarily come to elect directly at each other in name in extreme ways. they have not done that as of yet. what does this say about vladimir putin s leadership today, and where it might go. might he lose another, if you will oligarchy that is so important in the support of his leadership in russia? i think this relationship is irreparably broken. there s no way putin could ever forgive prove goshen, by calling him a traitor treason, a step in the back, the language he used was so forceful. there is no question this is not something that could be patched up. not naming him is simply to avoid elevating him, and spreading any kind of support for him among russians who are not entirely aware

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 16:50:00

of this moment of disarray in russia. this is everything that vladimir putin has feared basically for two decades, all coming to a head at this moment. when you saw him speak earlier today peter, what did you see in his strength and his solidity of his purpose of message? do you see any on surety in his message when reaching out after five goshen had reached the south, taking over that key military base? i think you are right to point out that he does not admit dissent within the country easily. this is, for him to acknowledge, and acknowledge this is happening, not only to acknowledge it, but to create a national, you know, address to the country about, it does indicate weakness frankly that he isn t. that doesn t mean prove goshen will succeed at this, russian power, it is a remarkable admission that he does not have complete control here. and he is in fact struggling to re-assert himself on scene, that prigozhin has momentum at the moment. putin is trying to reverse that. andr

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 16:14:00

prepositioned. the significance of this is that that bakhmut was a prize. mr. prove goshen owns a salt mine in the other part of the world, he knows how amazing that is as a supply of cash. and as you know one of the largest salt mines in all of europe is just south and west of bakhmut. and i think when mr. when mr. prove goshen was denied being able to take that city, and hold that salt mine, that was a major problem in the whole discussion. general, one of the potential occurrences as the troops move north is that there on the freeway, through on the highway. and we have had video come in of russian helicopters above the spaces. and as we saw in ukraine, they face the very same problem. troops are traveling down freeways, and highways, they were very exposed. as they make their way north,

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 16:04:00

about 12:14 hours ago. in which he said that russia did not invade ukraine because ukraine was going to attack russia. russia invaded ukraine so the top military commanders could enrich themselves with metals and with other things. and that this is really a corrupt enterprise. essentially attacking the main justification for war that president putin has been talking about now for, well since the war began. after that happened, prove goshen claims there was an attack on his forces. moscow says that they did not attack prigozhin s forces. and early in the morning you had the wagner group claiming, and prigozhin claiming that they had taken control of this city. rostov-on-don. a city of 1 million people, just across the border of ukraine, on russian territory, and that they d also taken over a key military base, the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 16:15:00

is that, is that essential to vladimir putin s defense of them moving further north? and moving quickly? it will get worse for mr. prigozhin s forces as they go north. unlike ukraine, where the ukrainian air defenses have made it hard for russia, now there are no such air defenses above mr. prigozhin s forces. rumors, not confirmed, that some russian helicopters have been shot down, if that is the case, they are probably shoulder held, infrared seeking capabilities or others. but mr. prove goshen is not going to have a free walk into moscow. he will come under fire. general, roughly, what is the percentage of troops that equal wagner troops. that were fighting in ukraine, with wagner troops now gone, what percentage was lost if you will in terms of the force that

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