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7:30, something like that don t think that even i as a governor of a state don t feel a little bit of anxiety about having been in the vicinity. and so that s what i equate terrorism. it is the symbolic attempt to make masses of people feel frightened and to deny them of their freedoms that this country allows. so i think that it can come from timothy mcveigh s car bomb that killed 168 people in oklahoma city can come from the middle east. any time, violence the threat or violence is used to distract people from the every day lives, i would label it terrorism. larry: do you have knowledge that other acts that we may never have heard of were prevented? i mean, from time to time, that probably has been the case and there are believe me, we have a strong homeland security system and coordination between the agencies, i think, is the biggest advantage that we have ....