joining us now, i m very pleased to say, is senator bernie sanders, leader of outreach for the senate democrats, former candidate for president and now the leader of his own post-election nonprofit called our revolution. senator sanders, great to see you. good to be with you, rachel. are you rested and recovered after your election journey? ready to go. you look like it. i know you heard a bit of my conversation with senator schumer here. you guys went to the same high school, you ve known each other for a long time. let me ask you candidly, how rested and ready do you feel like democrats are for the trump era? are you confident in the plans? in the strategic planning? in the operations thus far? no. i think chuck is off to a good start, is he has brought together some very, very good people and he understands something and that is that at the end of the day the way we re going to bring about change, the way we re going to stop trump is not just inside the belt way. you n
senate, one of the things that harry reid sort of took on personally in a very ostentatious way is he took on a personal fight with the koch brother, charles and david koch. talked about them hundreds of times on the senate floor. he did a great job. he did a great job but the koch brothers now today were treated to the news that the guy who used to run freedom partners for them, their political network, is apparently going to be director of legislative affairs in the white house. i didn t know that. it s not official but that s the reporting today. and they opposed trump see, here s what s going on here. trump ran against the democratic and republican establishments. against both. trump as president-elect has been totally captured by the hard right. the koch brothers were opposed to him in the campaign and that will make him a failure. i said to this to him. he calls me occasionally on the phone. i said this to him. if you just get embraced by the hard right, and i named v
guess who s getting hurt? workers. but hospitals. and rural hospitals. so you go to the reddest of states and who s complaining the most? these little hospitals, rural, that depend on the aca. are you saying that outcry is going to stop them from repealing it? i m saying by the time they get up to having to put a repeal bill in they ll be so tied in a knot they may not be able to do it. we won t help them. they re going to have to get all the votes themselves and the more mainstream ones will say we have to keep the benefits. the more right wing ones will say we can t put in any money and they re stuck. i believe they will not be able to replace. yes. but i don t believe you that they won t be able to repeal it. they ll repeal two years from now but there will be chaos. we will tell america that they re replacing affordable care with chaos and once the chaos starts hitting the fan, i don t know what they re going to do. no, they re going to repiet because they re ideologues
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