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Come into a more stable area. but days later, we learned that al-shabaab is moving in another direction, and getting more global finance. and this is something we heard from the kenyan foreign minister, that they believe this is not just al-shabaab, but also al-qaeda. the global world realized what they lost when they lost that territorial fingerprint in somalia. and this is part of their fightback. they re trying to show not only that al-shabaab is still in the game. that al-shabaab is still capable of pulling off something this complex, of this magnitude, but that al-qaeda is still in the game here in africa. anderson. all right, appreciate the support, the terrorists clearly timed their attack at the westgate shopping mall for maximum impact, striking at noon on saturday when the mall was certainly expected to be packed. they were shattered by bullets. ....
Southern part of the country. does this seem to you a resurgence of them, and maybe they were just cooling their heels? well, they have been on the edge of al-qaeda. we have to consider this in a long chain of events where al-qaeda are re-grouping. i believe that we have prematurely declared we have have defeated al-qaeda. and this was perhaps for election purposes. and al-qaeda have completed far more than we would have dreamed. now with this attack in kenya, they have demonstrated and are capable, despite having been expelled from somalia, they are capable to launch attacks like ....
Extremism behind. can you understand why and i think it is hard for many americans to understand why some somali-americans, a small number in the united states, but a small number of somali-americans would choose to leave their lives here and go back to sma somalia, in many cases they never even remembered, from where they were born, to fight for this group? yes, anderson, the sad situation is that islamism, and the violent strand of islamism known as jihadism, have been the established mode of the day for people in the middle east. the communist ideology is dead today, but those who want to pick up a flag, raise the ideology, raising themselves through the prism. that has become a brand. it is glittering and attracts on ....
Those corridors. you and i were together in mogadishu, i think it was right after al-shabaab had been kicked out of there by peace-keeping forces there. but they have not gone away. can you talk about their capabilities, because i understand they have also launched some attacks inside somalia. reporter: well, when we were there, anderson, it was during the famine, and al-shabaab was denying any western aid. and that was really the timing of the support they were getting with the local community. and after that, we saw the kenyans go in, they were pushed out of the capital, they were consistently pushed out of the urban census. back when we were there, we felt we were in the middle of an amazing period that somalia may ....