harris: it s much more simplistic to me. the problem for jeb bush today is he s talking about donald trump. and now, apparently, so is the democratic party. but, i mean, you would expect it from them. they re actually the opposition. the problem for jeb bush is that he s down below double digits in the polling, and he is spending his time talking about jeb bush. this is a i mean, about donald trump. this is a win for donald trump in terms of topic. but you mentioned carly fiorina and where she has gone. we haven t seen much of her since she, what? sparred with donald trump. i mean, it s captivating how much of the oxygen in the room he can take up. kennedy: same with rand paul. andrea: not even that, he s not just talking about trump, he s talking about his brother and the iraq war. and it s not exactly the most popular not just policy position, but i would say place to be explaining being on the defensive. i agree. one thing jeb bush is not talking about is the things he would do
essentially, when it comes to technology and cybersecurity nonexistent. and, therefore, you know, you see these things happen when government just becomes too big and immobile. and, you know, to the hacker s credit, all he did was call verizon and say, hey, i work for verizon too, i need this guy s information, and the perp on the other end the person on the other wednesday said, here you go. it was a fairly unsophisticated breach. harris: he and a group did this. they posed, they tricked, and they got what they needed. so is there a political party out there, andrea, that maybe is in favor of smaller government? [laughter] and where are they? andrea: the republicans nowadays are acting so much like the democrats, i get confused so much. i feel like the 28-year-old stoner. speaking of the stoner, get that guy a dime bag, some rolling papers, and give him a job for the cia. how about they do that? they should hire him. they should bring him in and say, look, we could throw you in the
young, first-term senator, i m not sure if that qualifies you to be president. bush reportedly said, acrding to two people in the room, of course, if he wins the nomination, i ll be back here next year telling you that that doesn t matter. all right, so we ve got the brothers bush, right? one s defending the other brother, then he s bringing in the brother for backup harris: keep it in the family. of. andrea: but he s not going after trump. harris: when you look at the new polling today and you drill down who s in third and fourth place behind trump and carson? rubio and cruz. i mean, it makes perfect sense. if the former president had and you would know, is he looking at that polling? you know this man. would he be the type of person to drill down, hey, look, let s go after numbers three and four? gillian: heck, yeah, i think so. it s an obligation. we all know the bushes are a close-knit family, they re very support pif of one another personally, professionally, all around, so of
you re simply the best, better than all the rest. kennedy: oh, forget being the best, everyone gets a trophy! we ve hashed it out before, the old participation trophy. it has stirred so much controversy, and now it s not just some parents that like the idea, kids like it too. a majority of kids, 60% of them age 6-12, think anyone who plays should get an award, only about 40% of kids in that age group think only oners should get the winners should get the prize. harris: i can understand why kids say that, because they love to get stuff. halloween night they all want candy whether it s, you know, the good stuff or the not-so-good stuff. i get that. but for my kids, i just don t want them thinking they don t have to do anything special to be treated special. the bar is high. kennedy: yes. we don t want ordinary
that remains to be seen. the bush legacy, the w. bush legacy has yet to flesh out. andrea: why do you think president bush didn t defend his own legacy? he went after cruz and rubio, and i was a bit surprise. he didn t defend his legacy, and that s the story of the day. why? gillian: my guess, and this is a guess, he s over it. he s written a book, he s done how many millions of media interviews, press, tv, radio. i mean, we re moving on to two terms into somebody else s administration later. i think he s probably ready to let history flush out the rest. it s unseemly to defend yourself. you re already out of the picture. i agree with jeb on that. trump can throw that out there and blame bush for 9/11, but the reality is you can know that attacks are going to come and be looking everywhere for them, but all the enemy has to do is find an opening. harris: so why doesn t jeb say that? because you re not even running, and you nailed it, right?