all right. jessica, thank you. if nothing else, the president will kind of layer the importance of people caring about what s happening here and getting involved. the situation is over in terms of the tornado but just beginning in terms of the recovery. lightning is starting to touch down around us as we re waiting for more weather to come through here as if these people haven t dealt with enough. the governor here is obviously mary fallin dealing with this situation in oklahoma. they re still looking for possible survivors. it s a tremendous debris field. it is massive. it was surreal just to walk upon that last night. there were hundreds of people that were there. they had jackhammers and saws cutting through metal and sledgehammers trying to get under the debris. we know that some of the walls
governor fallin, you were at the plaza towers elementary school overnight, well past midnight. give me a sense of what it was like on the scene at that elementary school? are they still looking for possible survivors? as far as i know, they are still looking for possible survivors, it s a tremendous debris field. it is massive, it was surreal to walk up on that last night. hundreds of people that were there, they had jack hammers, they had saws, cutting through metal. they had sledgehammers, desperately trying to get under debris. we know walls fell over, some children found under the walls itself at that school. all hands on deck to do everything we can to look through the debris itself and certainly throughout the community. my heart broke last night for the parents that didn t know the current condition of their children, where they were.
terrorism s threat today is sort of like war in some ways, it s sort of like crime in other ways, maybe we need to get past this either/or stuff and figure out realistically what s an effective strategy for dealing with this that doesn t overrely on using sledge hammers and military force and undermine the effective tools we do have to disrupting terrorist finance, for instance, disrupting terrorist communications. i m cautiously optimistic these hearings do represent some renewed willingness to take a serious issue seriously. maybe i m i hope i m not wrong, but i would like to think so. your optimism about it, you have moved me to feel more optimistic about it. i guess i should feel that way about the fact you agreed to speak at haerting, but it still freaks me out. we shall see, rosa brooks, thanks for being here. thanks, rachel. straight ahead, the coolest action movie heist/caper story
out realistically what s an effective strategy for dealing with this that doesn t over rely on using sledge hammers and military force and undermine the effective tools we do have to disrupting terrorist finance, for instance, disrupting terrorist communications. i m cautiously optimistic these hearings do represent some renewed willingness to take a serious issue seriously. maybe i m i hope i m not wrong, but i would like to think so. your optimism about it, you have moved me to feel more optimistic about it. i guess i should feel that way about the fact you agreed to speak at hearing, but it still freaks me out. we shall see, rosa brooks, national security law professor at georgetown university, former counselor to michele flournoy, thanks for being here. thanks, rachel. straight ahead, the coolest action move heist/caper story from belgium that you will hear all week. or at least all day. c# r
i didn t have my fingers crossed. you look like you were taking it seriously. who could not. i m in the sistine chapel? it s like the most secret process in the world. you re in there as a cardinal voting on the man who s going to be the head, father. what s it like? i can tell you what it s like. first it is not all fun and games. it is very intense and very emotionally draining. because you think about it night and day. this will be one of the most important things i will have to do, vote for the new successor of peter. there s a lot of intensity. but balancing that, there s a remarkable i don t know how to explain this. you know me. i don t think people would call my pious. i m holy but i don t think they d call me devotional or pious. there s a wonderful sense of the gentle movement of the holy spirit. no thunder and lightning, no sledge hammers, no people getting knocked off their horse