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Wildly improbable possibility that the congress has the votes to override that veto. this distinction and the assertion that the democrats would be fine with a slat fence, we will have to do a fact check on that. if there were any dems around, we would ask them. that pretty much came out of nowhere. no one is copping to ever having seen that before, including these little finials on top there. so a lot of things are up in the air. one that s certain is the 800,000 individuals and contract rs who depend on the federal government for their pay. their futures are uncertain when they will be paid, when they can come back to work. all right. we re glad to have you there. thank you so much. we will get more on this breaking news we mentioned at the top of the hour. the fact that james mattis is out earlier than expected, he ....
Tomorrow. we re in the head fake talking point posturing way. mick mulvaney said there was an offer on the table from the president. they re making distinctions between a wall and a slat fence or whatever it is the barrier is going to be called because the president seems to believe the democrats will go for it if it s not called a wall. there is a number on the table between $1.5 billion and $5 billion that the president wants. that s been shot down by nancy pelosi spokesman. he says mr. mulvaney well knows how dems are united in their opposition to the president s fo moral expensive ineffective wall. we ve heard what bob corker and others have to say. the senate is on record as voting for a much smaller amount ....
About the wall. watch this. the only thing that s going to stop that is great border security with a wall or a slat fence or whatever you want to call it. but we need a great barrier. so i don t know why he s yelling. so there s that video. what s the latest? how did we get here, phil? reporter: it s interesting. you mentioned the vibe here is so odd. i remember one shutdown or two ago when we were doing this, and i was texting back and forth to sources as there s this flurry of activity trying to the capitol is essentially empty. everybody has accepted this reality and hoping they can figure out a path forward at some point. when it comes to how did we get here, it s actually pretty simple. it s political incentives. i think the president and the white house made clear, the president specifically, that they were going to have this fight that the president promised he was going to have, that he campaigned on, that he believes is his issue that the ....
Against kate s law. they voted against keeping ms 13 and other violent offenders out. that s just not true. even in 2006 they voted for a wall. we voted for real border security. okay? let s talk about facts. in 2006 you voted for a wall. we voted for real comprehensive immigration. you served look, i voted for the secure act in 2006. the secure fence act attempted to help establish operational control of the border. it authorized about 700 miles of vehicular and pedestrian barriers on the southern border. nobody was seriously talking about a 2,000 mile wallow over. thank you. or even a steel slat fence on the southern border. it was not necessary. we need drones, technology, more border patrol agents, we need roads along the border. ....
Right down. merry christmas, everybody. want to turn to phil mattingly. thank you for joining us. i know it s a busy night, maybe not so busy right now. it s official. in less than two hours, the government will shut down. the president just released a video calling for border security. in it he s using the same kind of imagery in the racist ads before the election. this is the part where he talks about the wall. watch this. the only thing that s going to stop that is great border security with a wall or a slat fence or whatever you want to call it. but we need a great barrier. so i don t know why he s yelling. so there s that video. what s the latest? how did we get here, phil? reporter: it s interesting. you mentioned the vibe here is so odd. i remember one shutdown or two ago when we were doing this, and i was texting back and forth to sources as there s this flurry of activity trying to the capitol is essentially empty. everybody has accepted this reality and hoping they ca ....