knowing about the incursion on american democracy and they re on the horns of a dilemma and loudermilk and generally. he can try to say we can cooperate and this is true of the other five, as well so they ll tell the story and he won t be able to be accurate and they sure seem confident about it, man, what an accusation against a sitting lawmaker. he actually helped people coming to invade the capitol, nowhere to go and what to do and you contrast that and juxtapose it with pence and everyone else cowering behind the doors and knowing that they facilitated that, man, oh, man, that is treacherous. it seems to cross so many red lines, harry. it seems to defy any ability to defend because it seems to reveal knowledge that the protest at the ellipse and the march to the capitol was never the plan that republican members
wanted to be in the party to some degree anymore as a sitting lawmaker. what did you make of his decision? yeah, look, i think a lot of republicans have sort of put off this decision about whether or not to run again. they think the closer you can get to a primary, or i m sorry, the closer you can get to the primary time, the more likely they won t have an opponent, and obviously you mentioned donald trump being out there wanting to possibly recruit someone against him. look, it made sense to wait, and thune talked about concerns from his family. he has been in washington for a long time. it s getting increasingly uglier, as you know from being up on the hill, and you know, a lot of senators are asking themselves do they want to be a part of this. i think for republican leadership, it s a relief for two reasons. one of them is they have five senate republicans who are retiring as you know, and every time somebody retires, it s harder to keep a seat. it s already going to be a tough e
road. what happens next, if both perry and jordan say no? reporter: right, and that s the thing, right now the committee is not saying that they re going to move to a subpoena, but of course that is possibly the next option. that would be an extraordinary step, not only for the fact that you have a sitting lawmaker who is a top leader for the conservatives on capitol hill, but also, you know, obviously for republicans who have said that members of their caucus are off limits to a committee that they are obviously at odds with. so we ll see whether the committee tries to take this next big momentous step in the coming weeks, joe. we ll be watching, evan perez, thanks very much. let s bring in our panel to discuss. let me play devil s advocate here, why not subpoena him? i know he s a member and i know there s discussion of the can of worms you open up for congresses down the road. but the question is what is a
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has been a key question for the committee how they were going to handle exactly how to get information from a sitting lawmaker. legal experts have said since july they ve told the post there is little precedent for forcing lawmakers to testify, compelling them to testify as a part of a congressional inquiry in the case that they do resist subpoena. obviously we have not seen the subpoenas yet but it feels like it is inevitable after the text messages that we heard last week that tied several gop lawmakers still unidentified directly to mark meadows and the efforts from the white house to overturn the results of the election. we haven t seen the actions yet from the committee but we know they have been deliberating and thinking about how to move forward to get further information from people like mo brooks, paul gosar, and various people who have been up to this point peripherally connected to january 6th but are becoming clearer in recent days and weeks