released audio of an interview of donald trump by jonathan carl. it shows the ex-president knew full well the power he had over the mob that stormed the capitol. just take a listen. but if you look a the real size of that crowd, i was never reported correctly. there were the biggest crowd i ve ever spoken in front of by far, really, by far, that went down to the washington that went back to the washington mo. you told them you were going to g up to the capitol. were you just i was going to a the secret service said you can t. and by the time i would have and wanted to go back, i was thinking about going back during doing it myself.top the problem secret service didn t like that idea too much. so i ve done that. and you know what, i would have been very well received. don t forget, the peopl that went to washington that day in my opinion, they went because they thought the election was rigged. that s why they went. trump s desire to go to the capitol was flushed ou
enforcement. bill barr would be the first phone call to make to try to assess what type of pressure trump was putting on the justice department. there s a really interesting symmetry coming to trump s presidency and the relationships with the attorneys general. jeff sessions appointed to be the most loyal of the loyalists made a decision recusing from supervising the russia probe. that resulted in the appointment of special counsel robert mule every and the rest is history. again at the very front of trump s presidency. and then in this final, final month or two we have a parallel move from barr who before the election day chaos rolled out was arguably the singlemost loyal and helpful member that trump had had in his cabinet
many people. and that s perhaps a singlemost damaging and dangerous consequence of this type of comment by a major political figure. that there are real consequences to the president s comments is the point that rupert was making. he is the human rights commissioner, spokesman for the united nations. he was expressing some ooft reaction that the president s s-hole comment received from around the world. someone started #my shole and many twitter users posted some of the most beautiful pictures. joining us now is ambassador wendy sherman and a msnbc global affairs contributor. good to see you. good to see you. after we spoke with morning, i had a conversation with texas democratic congresswoman sheila jackson-lee who said she really hopes that rex tillerson who s the boss of all the ambassadors comes out and speaks to haiti
this isn t just a story about vulgar language. it s about opening the door to humanity s worst side. it s about validating and encouraging racism and xenophobia. that will potentially disrupt and even destroy the lives of many people. and that s perhaps a singlemost damaging and dangerous consequence of this type of comment by a major political figure. that there are real consequences to the president s comments is the point that rupert was making. he is the human rights commissioner, spokesman for the united nations. he was expressing some ooft reaction that the president s s-hole comment received from around the world. someone started #my shole and many twitter users posted some of the most beautiful pictures. joining us now is ambassador wendy sherman and a msnbc global affairs contributor. good to see you. good to see you. after we spoke with morning, i had a conversation with texas democratic congresswoman sheila
advance the principles that we believe in and that so many egyptians have sacrificed for these last several years. no matter what party or faction they belong to. so america will work with all those in egypt and around the world to support a future of stability that rests on a foundation of justice and peace and dignity. thank you very much. [inaudible conversations] martha: just want to hear be maybe he took a question there. it appears that he did not. the president speaking while the images of the battle that is going on between the forces of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the military there. ambassador john bolton was listening along with us. what did you think of that statement, ambassador? well, after you wade through the platitudes of which there were a lot, the singlemost important thing i think he said was to place almost all of the blame for the current situation in egypt on the interim government, on the military.