al-qaeda. i can be franchises that are in many more ways are more dangerous. most people in intelligence committee believe al-awlaki was more powerful and lethal than bin laden was. it was great we killed bin laden. i think it s been supplanted as a major terrorist by al-awlaki. it s a tough place to get intel, too. you re tracking a terror trial going on this week that will begin here on our shores. thank you for the update. and it s good we re all aware of the concerns the work of the committee. jamie: thank you. good seeing you. jamie: great to see you, too. eric? eric: president obama is set to meet with congressional leaders at the white house six hours from now. they re both working overtime to hammer out a date that everyone can live with. sharp division over tax hike and benefit cuts, with that,