northern ireland and wales, some care costs are already capped. well, we can now speak to the former conservative health secretary, stephen dorrell and chair of the health select committe. he joins us live from worcester. thank you very much, good to speak to you again. do you sharejeremy hunt s belief that in the end, some kind of rise in taxation will be needed to fund this?- needed to fund this? yes, i absolutely needed to fund this? yes, i absolutely agree needed to fund this? yes, i absolutely agree with - needed to fund this? yes, i l absolutely agree with jeremy needed to fund this? yes, i - absolutely agree with jeremy about that. i think it s welcome, actually, on the narrow issue of social care, that the government is quite clearly speculating in public now about which tax it ll raise not whether it ll raise tax, but which tax it ll raise in order to address the social care crisis. but i thinkjeremy hunt is also quite right to say that you can t address social care on i