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biden. this president s been talking about corruption in ukraine since he was running for the office. he mentioned no corruption in the call or any other time except the bidens and the dnc. he had his lawyer installed as a shadow process to achieve only these two ends. he ignored a sitting agreement with ukraine to investigate law matters and didn t go to his own attorney general, which would have been the proper channels if he just cared about the case. do you really believe this wasn t wrong? if you switched the rs and ds and caught president obama doing this, you wouldn t have gone crazy? i wouldn t have gone crazy. this president got elected because he does things in a different way. that s one thing globally we can tell by not just these hearings but hearings we ve had in oversight, hearings we ve had in judiciary. he told the american people when christopher wray said if you get approached by a foreign person with information about your opponent, you should go to the fbi
since he was running for the office. he mentioned no corruption in the call or any other time except the bidens and the dnc. he had his lawyer installed as a shadow process to achieve only these two ends. he ignored a sitting agreement with ukraine to investigate law matters and didn t go to his own attorney general, which would have been the proper channels forecast he just cared about the case. do you really believe this wasn t wrong? if you switched the rs and ds and caught president obama doing this, you wouldn t have gone crazy? i wouldn t have gone crazy. this president got elected because he does things in a different way. that s one thing globally we can tell by not just these hearings but oversight hearings we ve had he told the american people when christopher wray said if you get approached by a foreign person with information about your opponent, you should go to the fbi and he says that s not the real world, he s wrong.
but the politicalization of the nsc is deeply jarring to me. i was a career civil servant, served regardless of who the president was. the reason the nsc is staffed with career officials is because they have actual expertise and years of experience with departments and agency, regardless, again, of who s president. there is a disconcerting trend which is that the political appointees run a shadow process driven by the president s personal interests and not national security ones. to me, this looks like the president is trying to make the nsc into a campaign surrogate and campaign arm rather than using them to advance u.s. national security. some of the reporting on this has focused on the numbers. from my perspective, it s not the numbers over different administration of both parties, the numbers have ballooned and drawn down. what matter is the quality of the people, whether there are, as samantha is describing, national security professionals who are doing this work or whether ther
upon the national security agenda of the country. if ambassador yovanovitch testifies, she would have really unique insight about any kind of shadow process that was being run by ambassador sondland, secretary of state pompeo and who knows who else in the white house and rudy giuliani, could really speak to how that process was being run and why. what kind of incentives the president was offering, for example, to get what he really wanted from ukraine, which was a foreign campaign contribution in the form of political dirt. sam, juliette, stay with me. news right now, that multiple national security officials were alarmed by the trump administration s pressure campaign on ukraine and this, even before the president s infamous july phone call. joining me now on the phone is greg miller who broke the story for the washington post. greg, in your reporting, you say there are at least four national security officials who were worried about this before the
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