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Croft and christopher anderson. laura cooper, only pentagon official to testify, spoke to lawmakers on 23 october, the same day that republicans stormed into that intelligence committee hearing room in protest. it was her deposition, you may recall, that they interrupted for several hours. when she finally was able to testify, she told investigators that upon hearing that aid to ukraine was frozen, quote, deputies immediately began to raise concerns about how this could be done in a legal fashion. there was not an understanding of how this could legally play out. that by mid august she knew from my kurt volker conversation there were ukrainians who knew about this and ambassador volker did mention an effort that he was engaged in to see if there was a statement that the government of ukraine would make, and she added that the path he was pursuing to lift the hold would be able to get them to make this statement. ....
Trump allies and people close to the white house and in the white house is that they really do want one person to be in charge and they still don t have that one person. so the white house council and acting chief of staff are fighting over that role. you have jared kushner, the president s son-in-law. there is not one person in charge, as you heard. the white house is bringing in a couple new people, including the former attorney general pam bondi, as was announced last week, to talk about things on tv and put a message out. but the president doesn t have one message. he says six or 12 messages, depending on the day or time of day. it will be very interesting to see what he does now that it s public, it s a new, intense scrutiny for him. he s going to be watching and paying attention in how he responds, we ll see probably on twitter. annie carney, the president has expressed concern that many already pliant republicans are him. ....
And throughout the executive branch that ukraine needed these anti-tank weapons to defend themselves. being sensitive or overly sensitive to vladimir putin s feelings, not wanting to offend the russians is a classic hard-nosed approach to russia washington had been taking and exposes the total prokuhn approach the white house has taken. indeed. the republicans were calling for transparency, enough of these depositions. they got transparency in the form of these near daily release of transcripts. it is a lot for even us to get our arms around. jeremy, what stood out to you in today s document release? trump has been saying read the transcript. i think democrats are going to be saying read the transcripts, plural. we have additional transcripts of the closed door depositions. today s came from a senior pentagon official, a deputy assistant secretary of defense, ....
Like to separate everybody out and interview them individually to see if stories check out. that, so far in these proceedings, has happened. you ve gotten this sea of public servants of various stripes come in and tell their version, their slice of this overall story. though jeremy, i hasten to add, we ve watched the republican defense, let s call it, migrate a bit over the past few days. the democratic approach is a two-step approach. first they interview the witness in private, then they make public their transcript as that person is preparing to testify publicly. not much of what will be testified to publicly probably will vary from the detailed closed-door depositions. for that reason i think most of the committee members know what to expect. it will lead off wednesday with ambassador bill taylor, army veteran west point graduate served in vietnam, combat in the 101st airborne division, devoted ....
The most senior person in the pentagon overseeing ukraine policy. and she was shocked to learn that the security assistance package had been held up, that it had been held up at the direction of the white house. there was no legal basis for it and was undermining our effort to support ukraine in the fight against russia. anita, reporting of in-fighting within the west wing, not particularly new. how is that affecting, if at all, the process of determining the defense against impeachment, or are you going to tell me it s up to one guy with a cell phone? it s up to one guy with a cell phone. well, the house republicans are kind of doing their own thing a little bit, right? they have some things that they re going to push. at the white house, you are right, there is a disagreement, as there often is, as to what the strategy should be, what the message should be. you know, the president mostly, as you know, doesn t often listen to some of those advisers. but what we re hearing from ....