jesse: i m jesse watters with jeanine pirro, harold ford jr., sandra smith and will cain. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. ron desantis and gavin newsom throwing down in the epic red vs blue state debate on hannity. talking trash for months and finally getting the chance to hammer each other s record face-to-face. they tax too much, political agenda, they lost companies. governor newsom: california dominates, fifth large economy in the world. governor desantis: he had gives locked out of school because of teachers union. governor newsom: last guy you want to talk to, lying to migrants, promising jobs and housing, sending to martha s vineyard. governor desantis: this is app they plat the human feces found on the streets of san francisco. taking vicious shots at each other. governor newsom: i can handle it, you are nothing, but a bully. governor desantis: he will tell lies to mask failures. gavin newsom you are troling folks to outtrump, t