this issue for those who say he is not conservative enough. senator kay hagan, thank you for joining us from this important issue from your state, and joy reid, thank you for joining us. thank you. coming up, it was csi day today on the george zimmerman trial. the forensic scientist is here to talk about the evidence heard in court. and we ll get the latest from egypt where president morsi is is out and the military is in control.
he did not make the final decision before leaving on a family vacation. i expect an announcement when he gets back to d.c. next week. joining me now, democratic senator from north carolina kay hagan, and msnbc s joy reid. senator hagan, what would this bill mean to the women of north carolina if it becomes law? well, if this is a health care bill about women, i am glad any state legislator in raleigh is not my doctor. when i look at what the leadership and the general assembly is doing, under a sneak attack they put forward they forced a sweeping anti-women s health care bill that with no public notice, no transparency, and that doesn t pass a public scrutiny test in north carolina. those are not the values that we hold. this is certainly a distraction. what we ve got to be focused on in north carolina, everybody
from the republican base on immigration. so this would be a chance to sort of rehab at a time himself with the far right, but once again we re looking at the legislation model, where the anti-abortion movement is trying to provoke a supreme court showdown by going state to state to state, passing very similar bill, i guarantee you, lawrence, if you asked the legislators what are in the bills they probably wouldn t even know. there was a story in texas, the two sponsors of the texas bill when asked by their colleagues couldn t even explain the bill. but these are so dangerous, because where there is a republican governor or legislator, that could provoke the challenge that the opponents hope will overturn roe v. wade. senator hagan, if they move to limit the abortion to 20 week
and i think we need to go back to looking at the real issues and that is jobs and the economy. senator, what are the prospects for this bill, given that the governor said in the campaign that he would not sign such a bill? and your potential opponent, tom tillis, in the house of representatives there, did you expect him to bring it up in the house of representatives and get it passed there? you know, lawrence, we ll have to wait and see. once again, when under the sneak attack yesterday before a holiday weekend, with no notice, i think this is the wrong way to put forward legislation. we ll have to see what happens in the house. and the governor in north carolina, a law can still be passed without his signature. he just doesn t have to do anything. so i am concerned. oh, i see, joy reid, there is some real pressure on marco rubio now when he returns from vacation. yeah, the idea would be that this would be a palate cleanser
showdown by going state to state to state, passing very similar bill, i guarantee you, lawrence, if you asked the legislators what are in the bills they probably wouldn t even know. there was a story in texas, the two sponsors of the texas bill when asked by their colleagues couldn t even explain the bill. but these are so dangerous, because where there is a republican governor or legislator, that could provoke the challenge that the opponents hope will overturn roe v. wade. senator hagan, if they move to limit the abortion to 20 weeks, what will happen? you know, once again, i think we ve got to be focused on jobs and the economy. when we go back next week we have got to take immediate action to be sure that the students debt doesn t double. right now, people are telling me