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I think they are going to go with a legal act, in other words, giving him propofol, performed negligently under the circumstances. what do you think? li think it depends. i m assuming, gregg, that somebody that is a physician, an expert, will come in and testify, an anesthesiologist saying this propofol should only be used in a surgical setting. i don t know if that s legal, i think that s illegal. really? the place it should be is in the hospital, using it elsewhere would be illegal. i think that make its negligent. but i want to ask one other thing. lis, you pointed this out to me. jackson had a catheter to drain urine, an oxygen tube in his nose. what does that show? it shows that he was very, very sick and murray should have known it. it disproves the defense, if the defense says, look, jackson was taking propofol himself. he was self injecting. how could he do and it doesn t ....