Get pregnant. and so that s what happened to me. my doctor said, you know, there is no guarantee they are not going to have the same kind of birth. and so i decided to have an abortion. i realized how lucky i was. i also felt that shame, that we should not feel. but that is what our culture has done, is has made this a shameful act, instead of a self empowering preservation, choice act. joining me now are congresswoman camilla jayapal of, of washington state, chair of the progressive congress caucus. and karen bass, also a candidate for mayor of los angeles. congresswoman, thank you very much for coming back to the sunday show. congresswoman, let me start with you. there are folks on the right to cast the choice you and millions have similarly situated women have made, as one that was done cavalierly. but it wasn t, was it? jonathan, good morning. happy mother s day to you and