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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191116 09:31:00

His children, then staging the scene as a humiliating sex crime, premeditated murder said the state. and as evidence of clay starbuck s twisted state of mind, the prosecution offered this final piece to the puzzle. detectives said they found chanin s death certificate on a wall in clay s house pinned up like a trophy. as a reminder, she s no longer in my life, she s no longer going to cause me any misery or pain. reporter: so no smoking gun but a pile of circumstantial evidence deep enough, the prosecution hoped, to bury any chance of acquittal. at the heart of this killing and i would submit the motive greed, anger, obsession and jealousy. reporter: and, through it ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191116 09:39:00

Been transferred from children going back and forth between parents as marshall explains. only his audio could be shown not his face. do you ever share clothes with austin now? yes. if all my shirts are dirty or something i ll borrow one of his shirts. and i use also blake s old sweatshirt. reporter: the matter of the alibi. neighbors in the area where clay starbuck claimed his car broke down testified that they did see a car matching that description parked by the side of the road. i came up early in the morning to smoke a cigarette outside. i had seen it parked up the street. reporter: austin told the court that the jury should not be suspicious about clay s phone being off that day. why would he have it off? so he wouldn t be interrupted when he was sleeping because he had back surgery and he needed his sleep. reporter: yes, the back surgery. the reason clay was in deer park and not out working on the pipeline at the time of chanin s murder. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191116 09:42:00

reporter: on the stand clay starbuck patiently followed his lawyer s lead, no gaffes, no slipups. did you kill chanin starbuck? no, i did not. thank you, no further questions. reporter: when it was over clay and his defense team felt so confident they encouraged him to talk with us about the case and some things that did not come out in court. coming up in an exclusive interview, clay tells us why he believes he s about to go free. there s been many statements that have not been true. the case has been botched in your view. i wouldn t say botched. there s smart people that have made elementary mistakes. power over pain, so the whole world looks different. the unbeatable strength and speed of advil liqui-gels. what pain? ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191116 09:56:00

Polarized, and as the judge sent the jury out to deliberate you ll now be escorted back to the jury deliberation room. chanin s two families, her mother and siblings who believed clay poisoned the children against their mother on one side of the great divide. i hope that they learn the truth. and those very children on the other wanting nothing more than to have their father come home. hope to never see a courtroom again. but of course it was only those 12 strangers who could decide. the hours went by. people close to the question on both sides were in some kind of agony. i was sick to my stomach, nervous. knowing in my heart, i know clay did this. all it takes is one person, one person not to believe and we have to start all over again. not easy for any of them. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191116 08:57:00

Before shannon died, clay stopped paying child support. we were paying rent power. she was going to the food bank for food. my mother was paying for her school and computers. fascinating hoathe issues of a divorce can seem to change depending on who s doing the looking. now the detectives were. and they at least began to make that kind of progress that comes from dead ends. i was able to eliminate tom walker. i was able to eliminate john kenline. one name they hadn t been able to quite cross off their list seemed more and more important. clay starbuck was never eliminated as the suspect. clay starbuck, the ex-husband and by now they had something else to consider. a slew of unflattering tid bits from her family. ....

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