opportunity to make this an economic pivot, and the trans-pacific partnership was the avenue to do that. obama wasn t able to get it done. trump left, and biden isn t aligned with it either because it s not popular in the united states. i agree with anne-marie, of course you want to do this through europe but the reality is the europeans, with the sole exception of the french, see asia primarily, even overwhelmingly, through economic and commercial lens. united states policies in asia are overwhelmingly through a broad national security lens and technology lens, american companies versus chinese companies. and the french, the third largest exporter in the world. the united states number one. it s a serious challenge. we re not really aligned with the europeans on asia. and the interesting thing is the asians are really aligned with us. australia really wants that defense pact because they re
ian bremmer, what about the economic element? this feels like a geopolitical pivot more than an economic pivot. that s right. that s the problem here, is that the united states had an opportunity to make this an economic pivot, and the trans-pacific partnership was the avenue to do that. obama wasn t able to get it done. trump left, and biden isn t aligned with it either because it s not popular in the united states. i agree with anne-marie, of course you want to do this through europe, but the reality is the europeans, with the sole exception of the french, see asia primarily, even overwhelmingly, through economic and a commercial lens. united states policies in asia are overwhelmingly through a broad national security lens and technology lens, american companies versus chinese companies. so they re not aligned.