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Enforcement has evolved and very quickly post furg son and i think they are more aware that it s not just tactics, it s also optics and they ve got to balance their response. remember, we call this military equipment, but a lot of it came into the use of the military after law enforcement had already been using it for years when our military in iraq started getting into situations in urban warfare. they were using it defensively not oeffensively. we have to be careful not calling it military equipment when it s very essence is protectative. every one of those armored vehicles were scarred with bullet marks, each one represents a cop that could have been killed. sedrick what could you say to ....
Of keeping everyone safe but at the same time i think it becomes critically important that people understand, considering the history, that we have a better optic than what we had before. so this gets a little complicated, right? it becomes about the realities on the ground for police versus the optics and perception of those they are policing. all three of us are very well aware of cases where officers have been outgunned, where they re going against people with weapons that are of military grade. sedrick outlined a different one. saying this sends a bad message, that this is a police state, not just police and that that s not a message that you want to send to the american people. what do you say to people who are afraid that they don t want military style weapons and equipment being used against them? well, to sedrick go ahead. to sedrick s point and to senator paul s point, law ....
Nationalist terrorist, never heard him be specific about the white nationalist terrorists who just killed three people. he insist barack obama be about the problem with radical muslims. when you have those kinds of inconsistenc inconsistencies, andre, you are somebody in the republican party who has been a leading light, anti-racist. we know that about you, but there are people who if you look at what s happening online, white supremacist groups are saying hey, donald trump didn t attack us. god bless donald trump, because they expected to get some blow-back from the president. they didn t get it. you might see the positive in his statement but people that you hate and don t like and people i hate and don t like saw what was not said and think that donald trump gave them a pass today and that is dangerous. sedrick, jump cedric, i know something to contribute. a moment ago it was statemented by mr. bauer that the president has stated in the ....
Means. means diplomacy. for him to make that separation and distinction and sound like, he is actually taking the state department out of the business of military options, military consideration, military planning. that is a huge mistake. and it really, quite frankly, won t work. it is a was a very bad thing for him to actually make that statement not only to a radio reporter but a radio reporter of a major network in an allied country. admiral, how would you respond to that? i love sedrick. yes, we obviously see this differently. i do think that gorka is drawn too much to militaristic solution. i wouldn t disagree with sedrick he probably has an overly simplistic view of how control works in the country. if you look at what he said, and i read the transcript, i honestly don t think he meant it to come across that he was subject gaiting the state department to some sort of lower level of interaction. i think he was trying to say the state department has a diplomatic role. they ve ....
Reasons it took so long was that the french force had divided. they kept half s.w.a.t. assets back because they were afraid of encountering this suicide belt obviously. they didn t just want to lose men and women in this assault because of proximity. that s what was going on, the latest information in terms of insight into it. let s discuss. the international affairs editor is with us and from the join chiefs of staff with us as well. thank you both for being here. sedrick, tactically for these commandos, you ve helped me understand it, why i m able to report it, this is a new threat. bad guys who do not fear your capabilities who believe they have equal training want to take you on in proximity. if it doesn t go well, kill themselves and take you with them. right, because they don t care whether or not they die. the dig difference between their philosophy and the philosophy of police and law enforcement officers engaging them. even five years ago we didn t ....