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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:22:00

That vashti seacat didn t breathe in any smoke. and if she didn t breathe in any smoke, the fire was set after after she was dead. she was dead. and something else weird little detail. and yet, according to the prosecution, it was telling. when she died, vashti s bladder was quite full. there probably would have been a urinary urgency or the needing to go to the restroom. and the importance of that for the evidence is that the claim from brett seacat is that vashti is walking around the house setting these fires, holding her breath, not breathing any smoke while she has a strong urge to urinate. that doesn t make sense. that s something that the jury needed to decide whether or not in their common sense and experience, whether they thought that made any sense at all. just another point to add to the unlikelihood of this whole story that he was telling. that s right. the claimed suicide weapon didn t make sense either, said the prosecutor. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191111 07:21:00

Storage. it appeared brett used the projection light to re-create her writing in the journal. some of his actions were reckless because the clock was winding down. she was planning to go out saturday evening in wichita and spend the night there. well, it s friday. it s friday evening. this was his last opportunity while they lived in the home together to kill vashti. then there was the lack of evidence where there should have been some, if this were a suicide, that is. did you find any soot in the airways? no. any soot in the lungs? the autopsy finding that she had no soot in her lungs, her airways and there was no carbon monoxide in her lungs, what the jury could infer from that was that vashti seacat didn t breathe in any smoke. ....

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