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Carry lambs promise of being more of a listening chief executive but the complaint against that has always been that she is incapable or and able to make any changes that she wont back down and of course the suspicion being that behind her beijing is also forcing her not to give way not to lose face what the students are demanding is that they have this dialogue with government not only themselves but also many other sectors of Society Whats more they want that to be held in public all part of their campaign of building on the impetus of these mass demonstrations to keep this issue very much in the Public Domain the concern for the government is that they want to try to defuse this situation by having a public debate that may turn into a a rowdy shouting match between student groups and government officials they simply make matters worse well still ahead here on aljazeera the u ....

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