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Finds it immediately, and is absolutely addicted, watches it every night, and it bucked all the trends, and showed that, actually, if you bring the right thing at the right time in the right way, young people will come. but it is just harder than it ever used to be. but what is the right thing? you were saying the fundamentals of making programmes haven t changed since you started on the rwo ronnies, but, surely, love island is a format that, surely, 20 years ago would not have worked? this is a tv format that has synced with a generation that lives digital lives, as if it s their normal lives, there is no distinction between digital lives and their normal lives. that s not in isolation, is it? that is connected to love island s success. i think love island probably couldn t have happened without big brother happening, and big brother was a show that revolutionised television, from the way it is watched, to what is possible, the way you tell stories, the way you deal with real people. ....

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