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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:05:27:00

Telling the new yorker s jeffrey toobin tonight that even if there had been collusion between the trump campaign and russia that s not illegal, so it s okay. another lawyer for the president, john dowd, who represents the president on russia matters making a much more sweeping case to axios.com today telling them the president is the chief law enforcement officer in the country and therefore by definition he cannot obstruct justice. there are a lot of people who have a contrary opinion on that, obviously. the question is whether or not this is some sort of signal that this is where the president is going with his defense? joining us now is bob bauer, former white house counsel to president barack obama. mr. bauer, it s a real pleasure to have you here tonight. thank you for your time. thank you. let me ask you about the last matter first, these claims from the president s attorneys today that, a, collusion isn t a crime and, b, the president cannot obstruct justice because he s t ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:05:18:00

Crime there has to be a statute you claim is being violated, sekulow told me. there is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. there is no crime of collusion. there s a lot going on right now in the news. there s a lot going on right now just in the mueller investigation and in the russia scandal. to the point where the mueller investigation website has crashed. but with everything else that s going on, today will always be the day that the lawyers for the president of the united states abandoned their argument that the president didn t obstruct justice and insteadji9÷%eut to argue that it s okay that the president obstructed justice. it will also always be the day at that time lawyers for the president of the united states abandoned the argument that the president and his campaign didn t collude with russia and instead started making the overt argument out loud on the record that it doesn t matter if the president s campaign colluded with russia because it s okay if they di ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:05:16:00

Behavior of the president s lawyers has swung from swung from hard to believe to hard to handle. starting with hard to believe, the president issued a statement on twitter this weekend that stated bluntly that he d known that mike flynn had lied to the fbi before he fired him. that led to a lot of discussion as to whether or not the president had just accidentally confessed to obstructing justice when it came to the crime of mike flynn lying to the fbi. that bumbled into a sort of laugh out loud covering your tracks moment when the president s personal lawyer on the russia scandal john dowd said no, no, no, no, that wasn t the president saying that, that was me dressed up like him using his thumbs on his phone but that was me. it wasn t him. we re going to get some expert advice a little later on tonight as to whether or not that really might have been a confession to obstruction of justice from the president and whether it matters if we believe his lawyer or not that it was him and ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:05:13:00

Notes that they very charitiably did not publish the draft of manafort s op-ed he was working on under an assumed name that they somehow obtained, they also throw a little lightning bolt in there suggesting it would be bad enough if this op-ed were fair and balanced but in this case, it compounds the problem that the proposed piece is not a dispassionate recitation of the facts. so it s amazing that the trump campaign chairman is working with a russian intelligence source right now while he s out on bail. really? you don t know like, i don t know, a frenchman you could work i don t know. it s that s amazing. it s fascinating that manafort was allegedly ri lly trying to the gag order in his case by ghost-writing this thing, like no one would ever know it was ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171205:05:15:00

Circumstance if the government still had paul manafort on surveillance while he s out on bond, but there s no reason to think it would be illegal. i ll also say that there s also a possibility that the government was surveilling paul manafort s russian friend with the ties to russian intelligence and so maybe this information ended up in the government s lap because of surveillance on this russian source in russia tied to russian intelligence and they figured out that paul manafort was the one who was working with him. don t know. but that s happening while the dude is out on bail. so the bail arrangements for the president s campaign chairman appear to be in jeopardy tonight. there does not appear to be any indication that this is going to result in them, you know, yanking him out of his house and putting him in jail until he s on trial. but i do think the prosecutors seem furious about this development, and boy do i want to know how they learned about it. since national security advi ....

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