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. good to be with you, i m katy tur, former vice president mike pence is putting up a fight. a moment ago in minnesota, he told reporters he is pushing back on special counsel jack smith s subpoena requiring him to testify about january 6th. pence is citing the speech and debate clause, something normally reserved for sitting lawmakers. my fight is on the separation of powers. my fight against the doj s subpoenas very simply is on defending the prerogatives that i had as president of the senate to preside over the joint session of congress on january 6th. for me, this is a moment where you have to decide where you stand and i stand on the constitution of the united states. yesterday if you were with us, you would have heard former federal prosecutor paul butler tell us that argument, that speech and debate clause would be a good academic paper for a law student but not as good of an argument in court. after all, pence was not a legislator, technically. he was vice ....
Well, that ends today. nikki haley came out swing, an hour after rallying her first campaign crowd, trump s team started slamming her record. joining me from charleston is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ally vitale, what s the trump team saying about nicky haley. reporter: for them, it s point to go statements that haley has made in the past. we saw this when she made her official announcement with a video yesterday. the trump team saying they wish her well but noting that she had previously said she wouldn t run in a 2024 primary if donald trump were running in t. of course that s exactly the situation we re in now as nicky haley tries to turn the panl. page. the way she s talking about shadow boxing with the former president under whom she once ....