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to restore the voting rights of 1965. the good news, we have all 50 senate democrats are strong supporters, of both bills. they ve been rolled into one, the bill is now pending on the senate floor. the first debate that we ve been able to have, during the entire time i ve been at the senate. but, 50 votes without some thought about a rules reform will not be enough to pass it. that is because the senate filibuster is involved. if you don t have 60 votes you can get legislation passed. as you know, we have two democrats who said they won t change the filibuster rule. so, i ve worked with people like chuck schumer and others, and we ve come up with the proposal that you do not need to abolish the filibuster. you just need to restore it to what it was during most of senate history. here s what it is, you are on a bill, and won a bill now, you just keep depending on the debate is over.
legislation. as senators continue debate at the capitol, i m joined by senator tim kaine of virginia who finished his own speech in defense of voting rights on the senate floor. senator, what is happening right now? i ve lost the thread. explain where we are. well, listen, chris, it s great to be with you. we have two fantastic voting rights bills to protect. people s voting rights and to restore the voting rights act of 1965. the good news is that we have all 50 senate democrats as strong supporters of both bills. they have been rolled into one. the bill is pending on the senate floor. the first debate, we have been able to have on the floor during entire time i ve been in the senate. 50 votes without some thought about a rules reform will not be enough to pass it. the senate filibuster has evolved into this thing where if you don t have 60 votes, you
as possible. the president would love to sign a voting rites law into law. voting rights bill into law. stop me if you ve heard this before. democratic leaders from the president on down agree that voting rights are a top priority but they haven t been able to get all 50 democratic senators to agree to a rule to change any legislation to the floor. majority leader chuck schumer isn t giving up during a caucus meeting last night, he reiterated plans for a vote saying quote, we re now called upon to act. we alone can protect our democracy from these attacks. schumer said that if republicans blocked voting rights legislation again in january, the senate would consider and vote on rules reform. still with us, eugene robinson and bill crystal. eugene, the concept of the senate taking up and voting on rules reform requires 50 senators to be on board and at the moment, krysten sinema and joe manchin are not supportive of changing the rules of the
opposition of the legislation and work with his colleagues to pass something that will help keep coal miners working. nbc news is reporting in the senate discussion tonight, chuck schumer said the senate would proceed to the build back better bill in january, bring it to the senate floor. the senate will bring it to the senate floor and if republicans block it, the democrats will consider and vote on rules reform. joining us now is congressional historian, a scholar at the american enterprise institute. norm, your idea was in the discussion tonight about rules reform in the senate that will allow them to vote on voting rights without having to clear a 60-vote threshold. this is going we re going to see something play out on the senate floor on this in january. and i m very encouraged. you know, there are a couple points made tonight. one is that we really do face a