His closest associate. Now cnn is learning mueller is not primarily interested in what gates has to know about manafort. Mueller is seeking information ability gates about the central question. Did members of the Trump Campaign work with a hostile foreign power to win the election. Evan perez is one of the teams of professionals that broke the story. He joins us now. Explain what you are learned. This is fascinating. This is all in discussions happening last year, months before rick gates decided to plead guilty. In those discussions with the prosecutors from Robert Muellers office, gates was told they didnt need him to flip on Paul Manafort to provide information against Paul Manafort, instead, what they needed him for was their core mission, which is looking into possible illegal coordination between Trump Campaign and russians, what people called collusion. And so this is a big deal, simply because despite what you hear from the president , despite what you hear from the white house
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the job. what did you make of everything he had to say there? well, first of all, it s not surprising he didn t give a name yet, if they re not ready to. but the fact that he, first of all, called him an american hero but quickly connected it to his own sort of gripes with what he considers obviously to be sort of the deep state, he blames the democrats on the russian hoax. that was a leap that i was even surprised to see someone like the president who leaks to turn things around to issues that are about him. but the other thing that i also my political radar went up and we re seeing this a lot from republicans, it was noteworthy that he went after john tester, the top democrat on the committee for going out and calling ronny jackson the candy man, talking about the whistleblower allegations that were coming through the committee. why does that matter? because john tester is a red state democrat up for
expects an agreement at this summit between president trump and kim jong un is, you know, that s very unrealistic. i think if president kim jong un has clearly made the calculation that his regime s survival, the economy is tanking, he could be going in another direction. he s clearly made the calculation that engagement is best for his regime right now. i think it s the beginning of a process. certainly there s a lot of a propaganda element. i don t think we really know what his intentions are. they re so different what we ve seen since he took office several years ago. real quickly, before i let you go, i do want to get your take on ronny jackson. the president asked about him, praised him as a good man, high, high quality individual, said he was treated unfairly but he would not give a name when asked if there was a nominee. there a lot of people that want
plan to attend in jerusalem and can you confirm this there is a delegation including jared kushner and ivanka trump? ronny jackson is one of the finest men i ve ever met. high quality family. i just met they. i explained what happened. i explained that washington can be a very mean place. you don t know about that, chancellor. a nasty place. the false accusations that were made about him by senator tester from a great state, i don t think that state is going to put up with it. these were false acticusations about a great man, about a man who has a son who is a top student at annapolis.
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