moral human being. you have to deal with that socratic element in martin. there is obviously the attraction toward gandhi, you know, in terms of what he had achieved and the spiritual strength that enabled that achievement. it s important but also implicit in martin and there is appreciation of this movement in human terms that far transcended the case. i would guess mays, thurman and king all felt gandhi would be in paradise. that he didn t have to do anything else to be saved to get into paradise. which means they are looking at it s the same sort of thing. i think so. i think your comment on ethics is right on. because, for maze, god has to be an ethical force in the world and, you know, you ve got to look at the 20th century. great moment in the 20th century is 1917, the russian revolution. and will the world go into a violent revolution such as russia was and a civil war or is there another methodology? and one of the things i was struck by is that at howard at t