robert, millions of americans don t care what their health care is called. obamacare, trump care. they just want affordable health care. by the way, obamacare is not in a complete death spiral, but president obama is currently a private citizen. president trump owns health care. does he not see that? no. and the reason why he doesn t see it, the president is not an ideological person. it is us versus them, me versus obama. to go back to both your points which are relevant, this is now an entitlement i ve never seen. as i understand it, there s never been an entitlement that is rolled back. look at medicare and medicaid. that s one. two, i cannot stress the optics here, and that is you mentioned vice president peps coming in at 2:00 in the morning, senator mccome, who is a brilliant legislator, clearly rolled the dice and scheduled this vote not knowing where this is going to go. you have a west wing that is a circling firing squad. you have the secretary of interior allegedly threate
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joining me now, democratic strategist and msnbc contributor, crystal ball and robert trainham. crystal, robert, what is your reaction to giuliani s opinion that romney is more of an elitist than gingrich? mayor giuliani has interesting points. as someone that ran for president in 2008, he does have some perspective. however, at the end of the day, when you look at the tendency of overall republican voters, they want president obama defeated no matter who the republican nominee is going to be. if in fact mitt romney is going to be the nominee which i think he s very much in the driver s seat over this, the republican establishment will get behind mitt romney just because he is the anti-obama, regardless of whether or not he s a, quote, unquote, moderate or not, especially if mitt romney picks a tea partier as his running mate. is this a tricky argument, that the two candidates don t
speaker probably shouldn t be talking about that given a $500,000 bill at tiffany s. robert, these are both wealthy guys here. can either of them convince middle america that they will only fight not just for the wealthy but going to fight for them, too? sure. they can certainly make that argument. the question becomes whether or not the independents in the battleground states will buy something like that. republicans for the most part are going to vote for the republican candidate. hard-core democrats are going to vote for president obama. it s the independents in the swing states that matter. the question becomes whether or not those independents feel much more comfortable with a mitt romney or newt gingrich or with a president obama from a fiscal economic standpoint. i think it s not their background so much that s the issue. if you look at newt gingrich s economic plan, he wants to give the top .1% a $2.3 million tax cut while giving nothing to the lower 20%. those are the so