think we need to get new blood in the rnc. i like what dhillon has said about getting the rnc out of d.c.. i think it s going to be very difficult to energize people to want to give money, to want to volunteer their time with the rnc, if they don t see a change in direction. joining us, now mike murphy, republican strategist and co host of the podcast hacks on tap. mike, really no one better to talk to you about this interparty conflagration then you. what do you think of as the rnc battle a proxy battle from the soul of the republican party? if so, do you see any alarm bells, truly ringing alarm bells, for the former president, donald trump? s, for the well, yeah, i meank the new york times story today reflected with a lot of us in the party worlds here, which is tremendous frustration, and losing. even people that trump put on
congressional vest again of the january 6th attack on the capitol. and place blame for gop losses in the last three election cycles, not on trump, but i mcdaniel and the rnc. they re really eager for some change, and i provide that change, and a vision of how we re gonna win in 2024. it s far from the classic establishment, anti establishment divide, the number of the party in the early days. now, trump loyalist are fighting one another. even as others call for a new direction. while trump is at the center of it all, he s taken a backseat to the fight. i get along with both of them, i haven t taken a stance, let them fight it out. not florida governor ron desantis, a potential 2024 rival, who says the rnc is overdue for change. i think we need to get some new blood in the rnc, i like what harmeet dylan has said, about getting the rnc out of d.c.. mypillow ceo mike lindell, a trump election denier, and peddler conspiracy theories, is
blame for gop losses in the last cycle not on trump, but on mcdaniel and the rnc. they re really, really eager for some change. and i provide that change and a vision of how we re going win in 2024. reporter: it s far from the classic establishment-anti-establishment divide that royaled the party in the early days of the trump era. now trump loyalists are fighting one another, even as others call for a new direction. while trump is at the center of it all, he has taken a back seat to the fight. i get along with both of them. i haven t taken a stance. let them fight it out. reporter: not florida governor ron desantis, a potential 2024 rival, who says the rnc is overdue for change. i think we need to get some new blood in the rnc. i like what harmeet dhillon has said about getting the rnc out of d.c. reporter: mypillow ceo mike lindel, a trump election denier and peddler of election con
25 shy, but today florida governor ron desantis dropped a bombshell, saying this. i think we need change. i like what harmeet dhillon says about getting the rnc out of d.c. we need some fresh thinking. of the vote is tomorrow, about noon local time, 3:00 in the east. typically this is a family rivalry. it s turned into a bitter fight with a lot of arm-twisting and finger-pointing, as dhillon tries to topple mcdaniel without alienating the rnc voters she s trying to attract. this is not a popularity contest. this is a contest over who is best fit to lead this party to victory in 2024. so she argues that republicans lost the senate and the white house, barely won the house, under mcdaniel s leadership, and failed to turn out early voters, and had no compelling message. she says, however, that messaging was not her job, and noted that republicans turned
i think we need a change, i think we need to get new blood in the rnc. i like what dhillon has said about getting the rnc out of d.c.. i think it s going to be very difficult to energize people to want to give money, to want to volunteer their time with the rnc, if they don t see a change in direction. joining us now, mike murphy, republican strategist and co host of the podcast hacks on tap. mike, really no one better to talk to you about this interparty conflagration then you. what do you think of as the rnc battle a proxy battle from the soul of the republican party? if so, do you see any alarm bells, truly ringing alarm bells, for the former president, donald trump? well, yeah, i mean, i think the new york times story today reflected with a lot of us in the party worlds here, which is tremendous frustration, and losing. even people that trump put on the committee, you know, we are doing worse than the washington generals, the team that is paid to lose to the globetrotters.