transponders. yeah. well, we may not know that, but i hope the people conducting the investigation know the truth. jon: well, it is a 250-ton mystery with something like 239 souls at the center of it. jim calstrom, former head of homeland security for new york, thank you. thank you, jon. jenna: a lot more to that story. and we ll bring it to you as we learn more. in the meantime, a gruesome murder that has kept the nation rivetted. breaking developments in the case of a murdered australian baseball player in oklahoma who prosecutors say was killed just for fun. so, smarty pants, you said the last of the cold weather was gone for this year? do you have me on tape? can you prove it? how cold is out out here today? it s freezing. you owe me a buck. oh, i hate that. sorry. is this the bacon and cheese diet?
then all of a sudden he has his mind in the middle of women s preproductive rights and then suddenly taking row electrics and stuff. this is rolexs and stuff. this is astounding. he has taken very conservative positions in the passion what smart when he ran for governor in 2009 to run on bob for jobs and personal empowerment and the free market and using rhetoric republicans hoped they could win on to get away from social positions and took only about economic policy, and jobs. and he did it so well, his response to the state of the union was so effective everybody thought he was a rising star0. so seeing the timeline of they re behavior and the requests they made, hi knew his star was rising and still engaged in this type of greed. and it s really it s quite remarkable, it also starts on page one, and i think anyone who likes to read indictments will be rivetted. even people who are not would find this a page, turner. the very first outreach to johnny williams was a request
chechnya things like that. we have 0 to in retrospecht that things were missed. martha: that is a very good point. there are basic facts that a lot of people watching this can t if i can out. for one, the cia had of him on a watch list, that makes me ask the question, how did he travel? you know, how did he get through the airport and go to russia and come back in you re on the watch list? that is exactly what it s supposed to prevent. also, when they put out the picture of these two guys, i remember, we were all rivetted, the video had been released. does anybody who who these two people are? the fbi was already on this case. how come when the pictures came out they didn t know who he was? that is absolutely correct. this case in particular hits so many alarms about the stove pipes that were supposed to be addressed after 9/11 coming back into the foer, hindering our ability to keep america safe. raoefl i it seems to be increasing evidence that elements in one agency of government f
popcorn 7:00 in the morning. the problem with me eating this now on the television my son is going to see this and think he can have popcorn for breakfast. i guess you can tell mom. tucker: national popcorn day you can. clayton: miles, tell mommy have popcorn for breakfast. alisyn: a very dramatic story that keeps getting curiouser and curiouser. i like your rivetted look. manti te o everybody spent the better part of the last 24 hours wondering how would this have happened? how could for three years could this well-liked, beloved notre dame star have had an imaginary girlfriend? well, he has provided some answers now. you can let us know if you believe them. basically he says he was the victim of an elaborate hoax. clayton: he spoke to espn s jeremy shaft. he is down there in training camp training camp for the nfl right now. he sat down with him during a break. he said i knew that even i even knew that it was crazy that i was with somebody that