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general of michigan. joining me is nbc news justice and homeland security correspondent, julia ainsley. juliette, nice to have you. hear what of the charges that are facing? i m understanding that their claim, at least at this, point is they didn t know what they were signing. that s, right peter. these are felony charges. they are serious. they are dealing with this conspiracy to defraud and to obstruct the legitimate outcome of this election. they could carry jail. time they very easily are looking at jail. time it s but what do these fake electors say they didn t know? it s hard to believe, given where a lot of them, sit one is a city mayor. a small town in wyoming. once it s on that. serving michigan. a lot of people have held very prominent positions in the gop. it s hard to imagine they would sign something didn t know or understand. it s very clear from the conspiracy laid out by the

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