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Transcripts for MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart 20240604 15:10:00

rhetorically painting putin into a corner, butcher, war criminal, dictator and using the word genocide? you know, vladimir putin, if he is in a corner, it s a corner of his own making. it isn t the rhetoric of the president that is putting him there. i agree with jane that you have to be careful with the rhetoric because it raises the stakes. it means very fundamentally that ukraine cannot and must not lose. and, therefore, it is necessary to provide all the equipment that we can in order to allow ukraine to not only defend itself, but to end this war. but the reality, of course, is no matter how much equipment we send in, the russian military is bigger, stronger and more capable than the ukrainian military ever will be if they become less incompetent, a big if, if russian soldiers are willing to fight, another big if, and if their equipment is

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart 20240604 15:09:00

there are other huge embarrassments for putin. that way it seems those stories getting into russia rather than rhetoric playing into russian propaganda will persuade more russians who need to be rising up here and making clear to their leader that they don t support the war. so my view is, less talk, more action. even more action, as much action as we can possibly move into this country right this minute. and the good news is sweden and finland are now actively considering joining nato. and this means that this alliance will be even stronger than it is. germany has stepped up. one thing we have to worry about is france, which has an election in ten days, have russia interfere in that election. the ambassador did mention sweden and finland. ambassador, is the president

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